RE: AGE OF COOPERATION

Shuklendu ,

Whenever there is a generic Company Name , you may rest assured that the Advt has been posted by a Recruitment Agency . Almost invariably  !

On many occasions , a Company does not want either the public or the competition or even it own current employees , to know that this is its advt

On such occasions , it gets an outside recruitment agency to advertize on its behalf , anonymously

On top of this , our problem is that the Job Site ads are posted by absolutely junior clerical staff ( either in an Agency or even in ultimate employer company )

They are asked to enter their own email IDs , so that ALL the responses ( resumes ) are received by the concerned staff , for sorting / reading / short listing before handing over  a few , to Seniors

And , normally these junior staff , leave the Company within 6 months to 2 years - rendering the Email ID , invalid  !

hcp

PS

Even in those companies , where the staff member inserting the advt stays on for a few YEARS , we know that he / she belongs to HR / PERSONNEL function

A B2B message getting delivered properly to such a " Permanent " employee is still unlikely to get forwarded to the RIGHT executive within that organization

Even a small company of 50 employees , may have 10 persons having their own " official " email IDs

A large company may have 500 Official Email IDs !

In light of this , our best bet is to replace existing email IDs with , most popular / general / common email IDs ,  which are unlikely to change , such as :

>    Contact@

>    Feedback@

>    Inquiry@

>    Sales@

>    Marketing@

But which one ?

Based on their " Frequencies of Occurrences " in ,

>   Our own database of Companies ( not very helpful ! )

>   Promo Emails which I have sent to thousands of companies ( after getting their email IDs from their web sites )

we can derive these " percentage of occurrence ( probability of occurrence ) "

I have asked Kailas to examine the possibility of carrying out such an " Analysis " from my OutLook

I would appreciate , if you can show him some " short-cut " to arrive at these percentages

From: Shuklendu Baji [mailto:shuklendu.baji@sentientsystems.net]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 10:52 AM
To: 'Hemen Parekh'
Cc: 'Kailas Patil'; 'Sanjivani Kadam'; 'nitin.ruge'
Subject: RE: AGE OF COOPERATION

HCP Sir,

I agree that best outcome for us will be getting Company Database from DIPP. I wonder whether that is available in normal course through RTI query or something.

Alternatively, as you say, we need to clean our database. Instead of deleting the generic company records, can we find out actual company name from the associated e-mail id? E.g. company name might be ‘A leading Air Conditioning Company in India’ and the email id may be hr@bluestarindia.com. Then we know that the company is ‘Blue Star Ltd’. Of course, the email ids may belong to placement agents or may be general ids like gmail, yahoo, etc. Still it may be worthwhile to take a look at linked email ids of companies with generic names.

Let me know your thoughts.

Regards

Shuklendu

From: Hemen Parekh [mailto:hcp@recruitguru.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 10:05 AM
To: Shuklendu Baji; nitin.ruge
Cc: Kailas Patil; Sanjivani Kadam
Subject: FW: AGE OF COOPERATION

Shuklendu / Nitin,

In your yesterday's mail , you pointed out that , in our Company Database , many email Ids are wrong - resulting in Non-Delivery / Bouncing

You also pointed out that , if Foreign (  Message Blaster )  Companies and/or DIPP realizes this , there could be a backlash

I agree

Of course , the best solution is what I have suggested to Shri Kant , below

If the Company Database ( including the Email IDs ) is provided by DIPP , they cannot complain  !

We must await their response

But , if we are asked to continue with our own database ( acquired thru RSS feeds ) , then one thing is clear , viz:

In the " Email Alerts " ( when a Foreign Company blasts its " We would like to talk to you " message ) , that we will send out to DIPP / Indian Consuls / State Industry Ministers etc ,

we will NOT provide email ids of the RECIPIENT Indian Companies

We will just give , >  Company Name  >  Industry  >  City  >  State  ( we will need to add this field in Registration Form , if not done )

We may get away with this

But how can we get away with " Company Names " that read like following ?

>     www.visitmp.com

>     Company that provides processing services

>     Confidential

>     A

>     Large Industrial Catering Company

>    $ 20 billion Fortune 500 Company

>    @Aidasinc

>     A big Mnc Company

>     A big MNC in Bangalore

>     A CMM 5 level Company

>    A fortune 100 company

>    A fortune 40 global product development Company

>    A global company

>   A large IT company

In the first instance , we need to eliminate such Company Names from our database - descriptions which create serious doubts about our database - and rightly so too !

And , having removed once , we must ensure that , in future , such descriptions do NOT enter our database thru RSS feeds

If it is not possible to carry out such " Elimination " thru some software program , I am willing to remove/highlight such descriptions MANUALLY , with help from Tushar / Sanjivani

May be , if you send us a SAMPLE database , consisting of , say , 10,000 records

and ,

we HIGHLIGHT such anomalies manually ,

then , from these highlighted portions ,

you may be able to deduce some " Decision Rules " , to apply to the rest of the 2.28 lakh records

Pl let me know your decision

hcp

From: Hemen Parekh [mailto:hcp@recruitguru.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 7:10 AM
To: 'amitabh.kant@nic.in'; 'amitabhk87@yahoo.com'
Cc: 'ravinder.73@nic.in'
Subject: AGE OF COOPERATION

Dear Shri Kant ,

On 4th Dec , Ravinder wrote :

"  A number of suggestions made by you are already on cards and our agencies are taking them up in a phased manner. Certain suggestions are difficult to implement. For example, we cannot have a list of companies without verifying the credentials "

Despite my clarifications , if this apprehension persists , then I would be happy to replace B2B's existing  COMPANY DATABASE  with any one of the following :

>      Database of Companies compiled by Department of Company Affairs / Registrar of Companies

>      Database of Companies available with Income Tax Authority

As far as these databases are concerned , there can be no doubt re ,

>      Accuracy

>      Uptodate-ness

>      Comprehensiveness ( 6 lakh records Vs 2.28 lakh of B2B  ?  )

Sure , there will be issues such as " Mapping " ( establishing the equivalence ) between ,

>      Industry Nomenclature as provided in DCA database , and

>      52 Industry-Sectors listed in B2B database

But these are minor issues , which we will overcome as we go along

Most critical issue is :

As in case of Japan , will we in India , learn to cooperate / collaborate between Government ( DIPP ) and Private Sector ( B2B ) , to raise our " Ease of Doing Business " rank from 142 to 1  ?

with regards ,

hemen  parekh

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